Comments on: The Kayani Doctrine http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/ Analysis of Pakistan's domestic and foreign affairs Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:06:41 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Send Gifts to Pakistan http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-74647 Send Gifts to Pakistan Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:02:01 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-74647 I like Gen K's overall approach. He has kept himself away from the blame game, still achieveing what is in Pakistan's best interest without mud throwing. I like Gen K’s overall approach. He has kept himself away from the blame game, still achieveing what is in Pakistan’s best interest without mud throwing.

]]> By: Four Views On The Baradar Arrest (Okay, Five) | Asian Correspondent http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-73312 Four Views On The Baradar Arrest (Okay, Five) | Asian Correspondent Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:42:34 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-73312 [...] who refuse to participate, it will produce a sweeping change in the war.Then, Arif Rafiq:In my previous post, I speculated that Kayani’s overtures to the Karzai government possibly contained the following [...] [...] who refuse to participate, it will produce a sweeping change in the war.Then, Arif Rafiq:In my previous post, I speculated that Kayani’s overtures to the Karzai government possibly contained the following [...]

]]> By: Amy http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-67907 Amy Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:42:28 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-67907 US cannot afford to displease Pakistan. Without Pakistan's cooperation the whole Afghan war become meaningless. Destsroying AlQuaeda and making US safe is just a piece of poetic imagination sold by US. The real purpose is oil. Here laying an oil pipe line from Central Asian republics to the Arabian sea through Pakistan which is the shortest. If Pakistan is discarded it is to be taken through India which is longer route. So just putting a friendly regime in Afghanistan, friendly to US, alone will not solve the problem. US has to take Pakistan as well in the deal. Hence the inaction by US against Pakistan even after knowing well of its double dealings. Just catching Osama or other top echelon of AlQuaeda will not do. It has spread to other parts of the world. US cannot wipe out all those cloned outfits. US must be well aware of this. The other option is through Iran. It looks by the way US is flexing its muscles at Iran shows that that option is not a closed one. US cannot afford to displease Pakistan. Without Pakistan’s cooperation the whole Afghan war become meaningless. Destsroying AlQuaeda and making US safe is just a piece of poetic imagination sold by US. The real purpose is oil. Here laying an oil pipe line from Central Asian republics to the Arabian sea through Pakistan which is the shortest. If Pakistan is discarded it is to be taken through India which is longer route. So just putting a friendly regime in Afghanistan, friendly to US, alone will not solve the problem. US has to take Pakistan as well in the deal. Hence the inaction by US against Pakistan even after knowing well of its double dealings.
Just catching Osama or other top echelon of AlQuaeda will not do. It has spread to other parts of the world. US cannot wipe out all those cloned outfits. US must be well aware of this.
The other option is through Iran. It looks by the way US is flexing its muscles at Iran shows that that option is not a closed one.

]]> By: Shafi http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-60947 Shafi Tue, 11 May 2010 11:06:20 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-60947 Doctrines should be left to Politicians,Policymakers etc to make.Job of the Civil & Military bureaucracy is to implement those. Pak Military consistent interference in Pakistan Politics has left the Country shallow & devoid of any political culture. Most surprising is most Pakis side so do the U.S.buttressing the former ISI boss at every opportunity. Afghanistan problem is not going to cease in a hurry neither for Pakis or big brother. Doctrines should be left to Politicians,Policymakers etc to make.Job of the Civil & Military bureaucracy is to implement those.

Pak Military consistent interference in Pakistan Politics has left the Country shallow & devoid of any political culture.

Most surprising is most Pakis side so do the U.S.buttressing the former ISI boss at every opportunity.

Afghanistan problem is not going to cease in a hurry neither
for Pakis or big brother.

]]> By: Reeling in the proxy rebels? – Rethink Afghanistan War Blog http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-45672 Reeling in the proxy rebels? – Rethink Afghanistan War Blog Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:40:32 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-45672 [...] at foreign minister level for a while. It seems to have gone reasonably well; in the light of the Kayani doctrine speech, in which the General said that Pakistan would be satisfied if Afghanistan wasn't [...] [...] at foreign minister level for a while. It seems to have gone reasonably well; in the light of the Kayani doctrine speech, in which the General said that Pakistan would be satisfied if Afghanistan wasn't [...]

]]> By: Guptan Veemboor http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-45477 Guptan Veemboor Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:28:25 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-45477 US cannot afford to displease Pakistan. Without Pakistan's cooperation the whole Afghan war become meaningless. Destsroying AlQuaeda and making US safe is just a piece of poetic imagination sold by US. The real purpose is oil. Here laying an oil pipe line from Central Asian republics to the Arabian sea through Pakistan which is the shortest. If Pakistan is discarded it is to be taken through India which is longer route. So just putting a friendly regime in Afghanistan, friendly to US, alone will not solve the problem. US has to take Pakistan as well in the deal. Hence the inaction by US against Pakistan even after knowing well of its double dealings. Just catching Osama or other top echelon of AlQuaeda will not do. It has spread to other parts of the world. US cannot wipe out all those cloned outfits. US must be well aware of this. The other option is through Iran. It looks by the way US is flexing its muscles at Iran shows that that option is not a closed one. US cannot afford to displease Pakistan. Without Pakistan’s cooperation the whole Afghan war become meaningless. Destsroying AlQuaeda and making US safe is just a piece of poetic imagination sold by US. The real purpose is oil. Here laying an oil pipe line from Central Asian republics to the Arabian sea through Pakistan which is the shortest. If Pakistan is discarded it is to be taken through India which is longer route. So just putting a friendly regime in Afghanistan, friendly to US, alone will not solve the problem. US has to take Pakistan as well in the deal. Hence the inaction by US against Pakistan even after knowing well of its double dealings.
Just catching Osama or other top echelon of AlQuaeda will not do. It has spread to other parts of the world. US cannot wipe out all those cloned outfits. US must be well aware of this.
The other option is through Iran. It looks by the way US is flexing its muscles at Iran shows that that option is not a closed one.

]]> By: this diplomacy stuff seems to work…for some « Alternate Seat of TYR http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-44986 this diplomacy stuff seems to work…for some « Alternate Seat of TYR Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:03 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-44986 [...] at foreign minister level for a while. It seems to have gone reasonably well; in the light of the Kayani doctrine speech, in which the General said that Pakistan would be satisfied if Afghanistan wasn’t [...] [...] at foreign minister level for a while. It seems to have gone reasonably well; in the light of the Kayani doctrine speech, in which the General said that Pakistan would be satisfied if Afghanistan wasn’t [...]

]]> By: Prize bond list http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-44280 Prize bond list Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:08:02 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-44280 Nice post! Pakistan army is one of the sharpest and daring army in the world. Kiyani is a good leader and he has taken great decisions for keeping peace in Pakistan. I think Kiyani has rightly briefed foreign correspondents. Nice post! Pakistan army is one of the sharpest and daring army in the world. Kiyani is a good leader and he has taken great decisions for keeping peace in Pakistan. I think Kiyani has rightly briefed foreign correspondents.

]]> By: Saif http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-44223 Saif Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:38:41 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-44223 I don't think Arif meant the US is perpetually dependent on Pakistan. But it is clearly dependent on it at the moment considering there will be 100,000 troops stationed in their neighborhood pretty soon. Plus it's clear that the US has towed a rather harsh line with Pakistan all the while cozying up to India and its markets. We have to remember that any reluctance to be seen as more strategically or militarily aligned with India isn't curtailed by the prospect of a jealous Pakistan, rather a further strain in relations with the World's largest exporter and increasingly advantegous consumer market: China. China and India have unresolved issues on many fronts and certainly have bad blood between them. Needless to say it's rather intelligent from an American perspective not to wedge ourselves headlong into an unpredictable rivalry between the world's two largest nations. Hence the apparent collusion and dependence with Pakistan, and the apparent distance from India. I don’t think Arif meant the US is perpetually dependent on Pakistan. But it is clearly dependent on it at the moment considering there will be 100,000 troops stationed in their neighborhood pretty soon.

Plus it’s clear that the US has towed a rather harsh line with Pakistan all the while cozying up to India and its markets.

We have to remember that any reluctance to be seen as more strategically or militarily aligned with India isn’t curtailed by the prospect of a jealous Pakistan, rather a further strain in relations with the World’s largest exporter and increasingly advantegous consumer market: China.

China and India have unresolved issues on many fronts and certainly have bad blood between them. Needless to say it’s rather intelligent from an American perspective not to wedge ourselves headlong into an unpredictable rivalry between the world’s two largest nations.

Hence the apparent collusion and dependence with Pakistan, and the apparent distance from India.

]]> By: Tim Yen http://pakistanpolicy.com/2010/02/03/the-kayani-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-43935 Tim Yen Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:33:35 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=1537#comment-43935 "Pakistan is not simply a nuisance or basketcase, but a regional power that has the capability to leverage a superpower’s depedency on it and check the regional growth of India, a rival, neighbor, and potential superpower" This is a never ending question for me. Why the heck does the US depend on and support Pakistan anymore. Why not align with India? What can Pakistan give it that India can't? A border with Afghanistan? I see Pakistan's policies as much of the problem of the region. If the US keeps aligning with Pakistan on things like the Kayani doctrine then India will get annoyed. In the long term India is a (mostly) stable democracy with a bigger market and a free media. Whats not to love? “Pakistan is not simply a nuisance or basketcase, but a regional power that has the capability to leverage a superpower’s depedency on it and check the regional growth of India, a rival, neighbor, and potential superpower”

This is a never ending question for me. Why the heck does the US depend on and support Pakistan anymore. Why not align with India? What can Pakistan give it that India can’t? A border with Afghanistan? I see Pakistan’s policies as much of the problem of the region.

If the US keeps aligning with Pakistan on things like the Kayani doctrine then India will get annoyed. In the long term India is a (mostly) stable democracy with a bigger market and a free media. Whats not to love?

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