Comments on: Toward the Iraqization of Pakistan? http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/ Commentary on and analysis of Pakistan's domestic and foreign affairs. Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:14:43 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dagen http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-18540 Dagen Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:07:40 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-18540 Thanks for the great post. I had added a link to your site to share this information around. Thanks for the great post. I had added a link to your site to share this information around.

]]> By: The Growing Pakistan Expert Industry | The Pakistan Policy Blog http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-15480 The Growing Pakistan Expert Industry | The Pakistan Policy Blog Thu, 07 May 2009 10:25:49 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-15480 [...] Recent reporting, including the current concern in the Western press for the nearly million internally displaced persons in Pakistan, has made me return occasionally to my November 2008 post, “Toward the Iraqization of Pakistan?” [...] [...] Recent reporting, including the current concern in the Western press for the nearly million internally displaced persons in Pakistan, has made me return occasionally to my November 2008 post, “Toward the Iraqization of Pakistan?” [...]

]]> By: Ali Azizi http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9821 Ali Azizi Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:43:04 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-9821 We should call you Arifdamus http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\122\story_2-12-2008_pg3_1 We should call you Arifdamus

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\122\story_2-12-2008_pg3_1

]]> By: a network of friendly militias « Alternate Seat of TYR http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9767 a network of friendly militias « Alternate Seat of TYR Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:34:43 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-9767 [...] the pirates, Viktor Bout, and a world of bent coppers. The upshot, as Arif Rafiq observes in an instant classic post, is that Pakistan is being turned into Iraq. Possibly related posts: (automatically [...] [...] the pirates, Viktor Bout, and a world of bent coppers. The upshot, as Arif Rafiq observes in an instant classic post, is that Pakistan is being turned into Iraq. Possibly related posts: (automatically [...]

]]> By: Tim http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9731 Tim Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:48:07 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-9731 Maybe the ISI and the Pakistani military are finally coming to the conclusion that using Islamic militants to fight as proxies in Afghanistan and Kashmir is a bad idea. But probably not, they are probably doing one more strategic withdrawal, giving up a few strategic assets now their price is too high and laying low for a bit. But they will start again a few years later. Strengthening the Pakistani state may be the only reasonable option, but I'm skeptical of the likely outcome. Excellent article, thought provoking and informative. Maybe the ISI and the Pakistani military are finally coming to the conclusion that using Islamic militants to fight as proxies in Afghanistan and Kashmir is a bad idea.

But probably not, they are probably doing one more strategic withdrawal, giving up a few strategic assets now their price is too high and laying low for a bit. But they will start again a few years later.

Strengthening the Pakistani state may be the only reasonable option, but I’m skeptical of the likely outcome.

Excellent article, thought provoking and informative.

]]> By: AKS http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9717 AKS Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:55:37 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-9717 Your analysis worries me. For a while now, I've been trying to find a killer flaw in your argument. I haven't found one. It may be true that you're highlighting a worst-case scenario, but the trouble is that the worst case scenario is no longer that far fetched. I for one, a seemingly rational man, am certainly getting more afraid of living in Karachi. We are already witnessing a repeat of the mid-90s with plenty of Karachiites moving abroad. And I'm not just talking about those who have studied abroad and have chosen to not come back or return. A large majority of the recent graduating class at Karachi's premier medical school has applied for residency at hospitals in the US and UK. My neighbours, an elderly couple, who had returned to Pakistan 6 years ago after working for decades in the middle east are moving to the US. Last night there were gun battles in Surjani Town and Azam Basti, near the outskirts of the city. The details are sketchy (where's the media?) but it is more than likely that the protagonists were the MQM and ANP. The MQM has been going on a quiet city-wide 'cleansing' mission, forcibly closing down Pathan 'hotels' and businesses and driving them to the outskirts of the city. Your analysis worries me. For a while now, I’ve been trying to find a killer flaw in your argument. I haven’t found one. It may be true that you’re highlighting a worst-case scenario, but the trouble is that the worst case scenario is no longer that far fetched.

I for one, a seemingly rational man, am certainly getting more afraid of living in Karachi.

We are already witnessing a repeat of the mid-90s with plenty of Karachiites moving abroad. And I’m not just talking about those who have studied abroad and have chosen to not come back or return. A large majority of the recent graduating class at Karachi’s premier medical school has applied for residency at hospitals in the US and UK. My neighbours, an elderly couple, who had returned to Pakistan 6 years ago after working for decades in the middle east are moving to the US.

Last night there were gun battles in Surjani Town and Azam Basti, near the outskirts of the city. The details are sketchy (where’s the media?) but it is more than likely that the protagonists were the MQM and ANP. The MQM has been going on a quiet city-wide ‘cleansing’ mission, forcibly closing down Pathan ‘hotels’ and businesses and driving them to the outskirts of the city.

]]> By: Ali Azizi http://pakistanpolicy.com/2008/11/25/toward-the-iraqization-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9684 Ali Azizi Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:31:47 +0000 http://pakistanpolicy.com/?p=994#comment-9684 A very informative and necessary post. I think more people interested in Pakistan should read this. A very informative and necessary post. I think more people interested in Pakistan should read this.

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